"Living a stand out life is being true to what matters to you, to really playing ‘all in’, whatever that is, for you. So if I’m doing something that resonates for me, that’s true for me, and I’m turning up completely all there, and soaking up the moments and being grateful for the moments, then that to me is a stand out life."
Ali Hill has a lot on her plate.
Australia’s coolest psychologist, she is the CEO of Pragmatic Thinking (a business she runs with her husband Darren which was listed by the Australian Financial Review in 2017 as one of Australia’s 100 fastest growing companies).
She’s also a sought-after speaker, author, podcaster, mum of 2 and runner.
Perhaps it’s no wonder that after being overcome by a tremendous sense of overwhelm 2 years ago that Ali -- as a ‘head mechanic’ (to use her words) -- went on a quest to understand our obsession with ‘busy’ and how to live a life filled with meaning, even amongst the busyness.
That quest resulted in Ali not only making changes in her own work and life, but also writing a fantastic book called ‘Stand Out: A Real World Guide to Get Clear, Find Purpose & Become the Boss of Busy’ and launching one of my favourite podcasts, Stand Out Life.
In this conversation, we discuss:
- how she became interested in behavioural science and psychology,
- whether (given her tools, knowledge and insight) she experiences the Imposter Complex,
- the meltdown that led her to explore the culture of ‘busy’ and the strategies she put in place in her own life to make everyday life more meaningful,
- on the power of saying ‘yes’ and ’no’ (and how you can still say ‘no’ even after you’ve said ‘yes’),
- the fear of failure and the sting of regret,
- what she’s personally gained and learned from podcasting, and
- her experience running the 22km race at Ultra Trail Australia this year.
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